When Framework built its first laptop, it was with the ethos of a desktop: repairable, customizable, and upgradable when new parts came out. Now, Framework has a desktop of its own.

But the Framework Desktop ($1,599 as tested before a myriad of components and add-ons), isn’t a traditional PC by any means. Using an AMD Ryzen AI Max+ 395 “Strix Halo” APU with soldered RAM, the customization options on this desktop are limited to storage, Wi-Fi, your case fan, and some decorative elements. The soldered RAM is effectively required for the bandwidth this system needs, and the mix of powerful graphics and plentiful RAM is why Framework is pushing this as an AI system.

The Desktop has a ton of charm, from its 4.5-liter size to its surprising power with the right configuration. But it’s also very expensive compared to the best gaming PCs in its price range, and if you don’t use all of the RAM, you might be better off with a cheaper system.

Our review unit came with an early version of a carrying handle, but that’s not available to the public just yet. I didn’t carry the desktop around the office too much, but it sure looks cute. Otherwise, the top is held on by two thumbscrews.

The expansion cards will be very welcome for those who already have a Framework Laptop, as you can mix and match. But using the adapters on the desktop shows its limits. You can only have two ports of your choosing due to the width of the expansion cards. Just by eyeballing it, it’s clear Framework could have fit more ports on without the cards.

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Processor

AMD Ryzen AI Max+ 395

Motherboard

Framework FRANMFCPO4

Memory

64GB LPDDR5-8000

Graphics

AMD Radeon 8060S (integrated)

Storage

1TB WD Black SN7100 SSD

Networking

AMD RZ717 Wi-Fi 7, 5Gbit Ethernet

Front Ports

Two expansion card slots of your choosing

Rear Ports (Motherboard)

HDMI 2.1, 2x DisplayPort 2.1, 2x USB 4 Type-C, RJ45 Ethernet, 2x USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type-A, 3.5 mm headphone jack

Power Supply

FlexATX 400W PSU

Cooling

Heatsink, Cooler Master Mobius 120 CPU fan

Operating System

Windows 11 Home

Dimensions

8.9 x 8.09 x 3.81 inches (226.1 x 205.5 x 96.8 mm)

Price as Configured

$1,599 + $99 SSD + $22 fan kit + $5 power cable, before expansion cards and case tiles

Our benchmarks, which are typically run on discrete graphics cards, are run at quite demanding settings. Some of them may appear unplayable, but if you turn some settings down, you can get the Framework Desktop to playability territory. Here, we’re comparing the Framework to other gaming desktops, and, unsurprisingly, the larger, more traditional systems won out in most tests. The CyberPowerPC Gamer Supreme has an Nvidia RTX 5060 Ti, while the older Acer Predator Orion 5000 used an RTX 4070 Super. Both of them, however, are within the range of what our configuration of the Framework Desktop in terms of cost.

It took the Framework Desktop 2 minutes and 43 seconds to transcode a 4K video to 1080p on Handbrake. Only the Predator beat it at 2:40, while the Mac came in at 2:47.

With the Desktop, it’s far more limited. In a way, using a soldered CPU and RAM feels antithetical to Framework’s entire ethos of choice, repairability, and upgradeability. Framework says there’s a reason for that, though.

“To enable the massive 256GB/s memory bandwidth that Ryzen AI Max delivers, the LPDDR5x is soldered,” a Framework blog post announcing the desktop reads. “We spent months working with AMD to explore ways around this but ultimately determined that it wasn’t technically feasible to land modular memory at high throughput with the 256-bit memory bus. Because the memory is non-upgradeable, we’re being deliberate in making memory pricing more reasonable than you might find with other brands.”

The cheapest configuration, before any add-ons, is $1,099 with a Ryzen AI Max 385 with lesser Radeon 8050S graphics and 32GB of RAM. The highest step up, and a shoe-in for people interested in local AI, is a $1,999 option with the same processor as our review unit, but with a whopping 128GB of memory.

There are a variety of fan and storage options, though you can also bring your own instead of paying Framework. Those are the only two major components that you can change out, so they’re important choices.

But the system doesn’t feel entirely like Framework. The fact that it’s less repairable and upgradeable than the company’s laptops is odd, but it’s the cost of using a mobile processor, which is soldered to the board, along with soldered RAM (which is effectively necessary for the chip the team chose). It’s not wrong, but it will likely make the system less appealing for many potential buyers who aren’t specifically interested in AI.

In competition with something like the Mac Mini, you can really only compare to Apple’s most expensive configuration with a 12-core M4 Pro CPU, 16-core GPU, 24GB of RAM, and 512GB SSD storage for $1,399. Bumping to 1TB of storage and 64GB of RAM is a minimum of $2,199, so while the Mac is a huge budget for light productivity starting at $599, it isn’t necessarily a budget competitor on the high end. The Mac Studio starts at $1,999 with an M4 Max and 36GB of RAM.

That leaves the Framework in a place as a solid small system for people who need a ton of RAM. There’s a reason the company has pitched it for running local LLM’s — that’s who the system makes the most sense for. If you’re going to make use of this much RAM with a mobile CPU and a tiny chassis, there may be value here, as well as the fun of putting parts of the system together yourself. But for everyone else, a stronger gaming rig or a cheaper productivity system might do the job — and will come with everything you need out of the box.


Source: Latest from Tom’s Hardware.


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